A Quest for God’s Glory Makes the Supralapsarian

Posted in God's character on September 28, 2008 by supralapsarian

Scott Price

Throughout recorded theological history nicknames have been created, some good and others bad. When asked if I am a “Calvinist” I must be careful how to answer because they may be wondering if I am a Calvinist in my view of baptism or church government. On the other hand they may think that Calvinism is equated to what a Freewill Arminian Baptist would call eternal security with no effectual atonement to ground it on. Thanks, but no thanks. But if you mean do I hold to the doctrine commonly called Sovereign Grace that includes 5 points in the form of T-U-L-I-P, then yes, I am very much so a Calvinist in that sense. It is a shame that truth so precious has become referenced by the name of a mere man. But if it is a means to use to communicate initially in today’s world then I will take advantage of it just as I would a letter, computer, cell phone or any such other communicating device. Today, some 400-500 years after the systematic formation (not the creation of the actual truth of these doctrines since they are very Biblical) of these doctrines for easy remembrance and use in study, one must even distinguish further their position for clarifying where they stand.

Today, for example, the term or name Christian has been watered down so much that it means so many DIFFERENT things to so many people that it is seemly a weak term left by itself without further clarification. This is the same with the term Calvinism. This site seeks to make the necessary clarifications and expose misconceptions of what has at times been called “High Calvinism”. Drugs are not done to get me high. I do not in any case promote high mindedness, but rather the very opposite. If any know me they know I do not promote a high spot for myself (Popish) in my view of the way the church is run (religion’s way of separating “clergy” from “laity”). This is not the high I speak of when readily identify with the nickname of High Calvinist. It is a high view, a Biblical view, of the only true Most High God and a high view of His grace. Every attempt is made to NOT undervalue or conceive of His grace as being something common or ineffectual. This is for His glory, His very Name’s sake.

Note very carefully that this blog site is for educational purposes; Mainly MY education, yours too hopefully, unless you already know everything. Please get involved and take a little time to view Him as “high and lifted up”. We will look at gospel doctrine, gospel theology, theological history, real conspiracies against the truth, investigating past and current controversies about sovereign grace, define theological terms such as Supralapsarianism, Infralapsarianism and Hyper-Calvinism, looking at the different views of Predestination by even using charts, etc., all to see the interesting world of the Christ centered Supralapsarian mind-set. It is my comfort zone.

Do you find yourself or others almost apologizing for God’s absolute sovereignty in all things, trying desperately to phrase things so people don’t accuse the God of the Bible of being a monster? Have you developed your doctrine in such a way as to try to give God an excuse or conditions for being sovereign? Are you embarrassed by a sovereign God who really does not give all without exception “chances” to go be saved or does not get the gospel to everybody without exception (the old: man-on-the-dessert-island question?). Do you have a problem talking about what is commonly called Double Predestination? Does it make you nervous? Do you use the phrase Reprobate and explain it in such a way that God did not do this on purpose but rather some Divine reluctance? Do you claim you left Arminian works-based religion but still use much of the same language in describing God? Do you think none of this really even matters in the first place? Think again….at least think.

Lastly, I say all this, having been somewhat in a different zone (as what some call a “Low Calvinist” or Infralapsarian) very early after my conversion and even 4-5 years prior to my conversion as a Calvinist who did not know the Lord. I thank God for providentially sending the various means that led me a different Lapsarian view, the higher and Biblical view of God as He is on His throne. This will be a place where current and past preachers, theologians and writers will be referenced so you may do further study. I have a brief list offered of Supralapsarians. We need links provided for good articles and sites that promote Supralapsarianism. We will give names of books and even book reviews of good books dealing with these issues. God uses means for these truths to enter the mind-gate and we want them available as many people as possible. They have been suppressed way too long.

That is what this blog site is designed for, to attempt to promote thinking in this neglected area. Requesting someone to think at all is very offensive to many in this day and age. These are just a few things we plan looking into. Stick around. Visit, partake, participate, give feedback, spread the word, etc. Hope to hear from you very soon.

 

JOHN BRINE Remarks Upon a Pamphlet, Intitled, ‘Some Doctrines in the Supralapsarian Scheme Impartially Examined by the Word of God’

Posted in Uncategorized on September 10, 2016 by supralapsarian

http://www.mountzionpbc.org/John_Brine/John%20Brine%20Supralapsarian%20Scheme.htm

 

Just sayin

Posted in Uncategorized on May 20, 2016 by supralapsarian

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Face Book page on Supralapsarianism

Posted in Uncategorized on January 31, 2016 by supralapsarian

If you use Face Book I have a page there called “I Am Supralapsarian”. Feel free to drop by and Like the page and interact with many other Supras on Face Book.

The link is:

https://www.facebook.com/I-am-a-Supralapsarian-296583889562/

Thanks,

Scott Price

Sovereign Grace: What is it all about?

Posted in Uncategorized on January 31, 2016 by supralapsarian

By Scott Price

Rom 9:18-23 “Therefore He has mercy on whom He will have mercy, and whom He will, He hardens. You will then say to me, Why does He yet find fault? For who has resisted His will? No, but, O man, who are you who replies against God? Shall the thing formed say to Him who formed it, Why have you made me this way? Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel to honor and another to dishonor? What if God, willing to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much long-suffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction; and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy which He had before prepared to glory;”

Sovereign Grace is all about Christ. It is the way that God saves sinners completely and fully, in a way that God receives all the glory and credit for doing so. It is salvation conditioned on Christ alone. It is a salvation that no sinner can take credit for, as to brag of any merit or righteousness in them, but only by the righteousness the LORD Jesus Christ earned as He was obedient in His life and death to do a work that fully satisfied all the strict demands of God’s Law and unbending justice.

One thing very offensive to the pride of a sinner is that in this exclusive way of salvation (there is no other way) God rules out all works or merit that sinners may try to use as a means or basis to earn justification on Judgment Day and enter heaven.  This would include any works of the Law or obedience in any form done by the sinner, even actions that would credit the sinner’s will or sincerity. No prayer, no ceremony, no ritual, no formula, no matter how religious, pious, zealous, even done with good intentions will save, help save or add to salvation in any way. This means that salvation is by grace 100% or there is NO salvation at all.

Most people in “Evangelical” churches would credit the sinner for FAITH and REPENTANCE. They do this in such a way as to credit these to the exercise of the will, making their supposed free action of the will be be the determining factor between heaven or hell. This shifts credit from the life and death of Christ and puts Man’s will in direct competition with the glorious, perfect, finished work of Jesus Christ. God, of course, will not have this. He will never share His glory with another (a guilty sinner especially).

The word of God clearly teaches that, both, faith and repentance are gifts from God, which He works in the heart of the sinner by His Spirit, powerfully. Soon one begins to see that at every turn in describing how salvation is NOT by the works or the will of the sinner and neither by any possible cause or condition done by the sinner is always Biblically eliminated. It is here that one will start to see that the remedy for sin MUST be totally in the hands of God alone and be done in a sovereign way, His way.

The doctrine of God’s sovereign grace is that God Almighty alone is the determining factor in who will be saved and who will not be saved. It is just that simple. In the wickedness of the natural, sinful heart and mind mankind will rebel against this truth, saying that it is not fair and that God does NOT have the Divine right to decide their eternal destiny. Feel free to take that up with the LORD when you face Him at Judgment. He will destroy you with such an accusation. God’s word is clear in many places that He is sovereign, not only in creation and providence, but especially in salvation because of his Redemptive Glory. That glory was magnified by the LORD Jesus Christ himself. Sovereign Grace is Christ-centered.

This article is not to be exhaustive in the description of sovereign grace but to introduce a few basic points.

Historically and even currently the teachings of sovereign grace have taken on many different names by friends and foes alike. Let me just list some of the terms and or names you might see this doctrine called: Sovereign Grace, The Doctrines of Grace, Free and Sovereign Grace, Particular Grace, Effectual Grace, T.U.L.I.P. Doctrine , The 5 Points of Calvinism,  Reformed Theology, or Reformation Theology.

These doctrines were not created or invented by man, but rather Biblical and taught by the Prophets, Christ Himself and the Apostles. You may easily find these doctrines taught in church history also. They are nothing new to say the least. I say that because some of the nicknames assigned to the sovereign grace of God have the names of men or movements attached to them. These men or movements may have promoted, defended, systematized these doctrines and made them well publicized but they did not author them at all.

The Doctrines of God’s free and sovereign grace are more easily remembered by the acrostic TULIP:

T = Total Depravity (Total Inability of Man)

U = Unconditional Election (Not conditioned on Man)

L = Limited Atonement (Particular or Effectual)

I =  Irresistible Grace (Effectual Grace)

P = Preservation of the Saints(Eternal Security)

There are many variations and explanations of the titles and terms for particular emphasis and most of the time, but not always, the core of what is being taught is the same.

Total Depravity: Mankind is in such a state when they come into the world that they are in a state of condemnation and have a sinful nature, which makes them unable do anything acceptable to God. God says they are not good, not righteous, do not understand spiritual things, and will not or cannot seek after God unless God first gives spiritual life. Man’s will is even affected because of his sin nature. Natural man may act religious, moral and sincere but the Bible says they are spiritually and judicially dead.

Unconditional Election: Before the world was created, God, in His sovereignty, purposed to set His affection on and chose a group of people, not conditioned on anything they would do good in the future, but conditioned their election solely on the merit of the LORD Jesus Christ. These are people the sovereign God purposed to save before they even sinned. Unconditional Election is Christ-centered, in that, God set fourth Christ as being the One He looks to as the only cause of acceptance and to fulfill all the conditions required in the whole of salvation.

Limited Atonement: Jesus Christ died exclusively for the ones God purposed and chose before the world began to save. There will not be anyone for whom Christ died that will end up in hell. He effectively saves His people based on the merit of the Person and work of Christ crucified,fully satisfying the demands of the Law for their Justification by establishing righteousness for them as their Representative and Substitute, once and for all time. This Atonement is the center-piece and, therefore, the gospel aspect of TULIP.

Irresistible Grace: God, using the same power it took to raise Christ from the dead, works in the heart and mind of His elect people to give them eternal life by imputing the righteousness of Jesus Christ to their account and regenerating them by the Holy Spirit, giving them, both, faith and repentance to trust Him and reject their own righteousness, thus Justifying them. It is the creation of a brand new state and standing, what the Bible calls the New Man, created in righteousness and holiness.

Preservation of the Saints: God preserves His people based solely upon the work Christ done for them, which put them in the unchanging, legal state of Justification. This means they are not only forgiven but also placed in the state where sin cannot be imputed or charged to their account. They are both forgiven of all past, present and future sin and are judged perfectly righteous based on the imputation of Christ’s righteousness. God actually dwells in the justified by His Spirit and works in them to produce good works by faith. God causes them to continue in the faith all their life, energizing them to grow in the grace and knowledge of the LORD Jesus Christ.

This is SOVEREIGN GRACE.

God is No Respecter of Persons

Posted in Uncategorized on January 31, 2016 by supralapsarian

by Scott Price

“Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons.” Acts 10:34

The truth that God is not a respecter of persons is mentioned throughout the Bible. When God’s people declare that God the Father has elected or chosen a multitude of people that were loved in Christ, their Mediator and Representative, and has rejected the rest who were not loved, many people respond with; “God is no respecter of persons.” God’s people readily agree and would not defame or pervert the character of God by making salvation conditioned on God’s respect for man, or even for what God sees that man will do in the future.
The Bible teaches, therefore we believe that God is no respecter of persons in election because sovereign electing grace is conditioned on Christ as the elect are chose “in Him” and for His sake. Before they were chosen in Him they were loved in Him, not conditioned on ANYTHING in them or on ANYTHING that God sees in the future that will do. We are “accepted in the beloved” (Christ) from start to finish. This is the thrust of the good news of the gospel.

Those that would object to unconditional election and claim that God is no respecter of persons are the very one’s who make God a respecter of persons in their defense of conditional election. They condition election of God looking down through the future to see who will have faith and respects the person because of their action and then elects them on that basis. This definitely makes God a respecter of persons. Since the only true God of the Bible is not a respecter of persons in this way, any other god that is would be a false god of someone’s imagination.
God is absolutely sovereign in salvation and is not a respecter of persons since salvation is unconditional on man. Those that believe other wise have not repented of man’s humanistic idols of freewill, works religion. Christ will have the honor, glory, and preeminence or there will not be salvation at all.

If You Hate God’s Sovereign Right to Chose You Love Works For Salvation

Posted in Uncategorized on January 31, 2016 by supralapsarian

by Scott Price

(for the children being not yet been born, neither having done any good or evil; that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of Him who called,)   Romans 9:11

Even so in this present time there is a remnant according to the election of grace. And if by grace, then it is no more of works; otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it is of works, then it is no more of grace; otherwise work is no more work.  Romans 11:5

These two texts show us that the sovereign grace of God in election stands opposed to the humanistic idea of salvation by works. Without God electing His people in Jesus Christ there would be no salvation at all. The word of God has many, many references to God the Father choosing His people in Jesus Christ, before the world began. The religion of the world, which promotes self-righteous efforts at attaining or maintaining a salvation before God, is either ignorant of God’s electing grace, or they outright reject and hate it. Why is this? Because election exposes what false religion holds dearest: Self-righteous pride, will-worship, and an unending attempt at human merit in salvation.

Those who hate God’s election of grace not only have a problem with the gospel of salvation by grace alone, but they also have a problem with the only God of grace. Yes, they have a problem with God Himself. They put God under an obligation to save all without exception. This opposes the idea of mercy of God, which is in Christ Jesus. Mercy and grace are NOT obligated. God has the choice in the matter. These are not concepts that take a genius to grasp. Rather, it is something a humble and simple person can understand.  It is in the Lord’s hands to cause a person to believe and love this truth. God’s people submit and love His truth. Children of the devil hate the gospel of grace, where the righteousness of God is revealed. Thank the Lord God for HIS electing love, grace and mercy!

An Unnecessary Question Raised of the Atonement’s Sufficiency

Posted in Uncategorized on January 31, 2016 by supralapsarian

by Scott Price

Many today in “sovereign grace, Calvinistic, Reformed”circles, in attempt to soften the offense of the cross, raise an unnecessary question concerning whether the atonement of Jesus Christ is sufficient enough for any for whom it was not intended for. The question is; Are the merits of Christ’s life and death in anyway sufficient to save anyone other than the elect? Some who would say yes to this question state their position; “Christ died sufficiently for all men and efficiently for only the elect.”

Just a few things that must be asserted here in reference to the excuse to use the above unscriptural phrase. God is not unjust if there is no universal provision for salvation in the atonement since mercy and grace are always particular and are not obligated to the non-elect. God does not have to “offer” salvation to all to be fair, but rather commands all to repent. The non-elect are inexcusable at judgment even if there is no provision for them since unbelief is only one of many sins they are guilty of. These ideas are basic to the understanding of the doctrines of sovereign grace.

The atonement is not sufficient for the non-elect in any way because it was not willed, decreed, or purposed for them in any way. It was not intended for them in any way. It was not extended to them in any way.There is no propitiation, no substitution, no representation, no redemption, and no reconciliation for them at all whatsoever, because there was no love, no mercy, no grace, and no election unto eternal life for them at all whatsoever. These are undisputed theological facts of sovereign grace and reprobation.

In short, the atonement of Jesus Christ is NOT sufficient for all without exception who has ever been born or ever will be born because it simply did not happen for them all. This point is made to stress the fact that the atonement is real or actual, not imaginary, hypothetical, potential, or even conditional (on man). It is a finished work with a particular purpose and for a particular people. The atonement is ONLY sufficient for who it was for, the elect,loved of God. So, sufficiency is NOT extended in any form to the non-elect.

The idea of universal sufficiency does not broaden the love of God but rather makes it not effectual. The idea weakens all the attributes of God. The idea does not help the gospel message but rather hinders and perverts it. It takes away the offense of the cross, which states the merits of death of Christ in and of itself is what makes the difference between saved and lost, heaven and hell. Universal sufficiency is an attempt to make the cross of Christ of none effect. It is an attempt to make the work of Christ out of harmony with the will of the Father in election and purpose of the atonement. Universal sufficiency, when taken to its logical conclusion is universal atonement, plain and simple.

In conclusion, we are commanded to preach the gospel of Christ’s successful atonement to all without exception. No appeal is made to the flesh at all, but repentance is commanded of any thoughts of leaning on the self righteous “arm of the flesh”. No assurance is given to anyone who has not believed the gospel that they are of the elect. While evangelizing sinners, they are to be addressed as unbelievers not elect or none elect. They are not to be told God loves them or Christ died for them or the Spirit wants to save them. They are to be told of an effectual work done by Jesus Christ to establish an everlasting righteousness, which is the ground of justification, showing Him to be both a just God and a Savior. Faith in that gospel evidences them as being the elect of God who God loved and Christ died for. That gospel glorifies God. The elect will believe it and the non-elect will not.